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To whom does this refer?
"He had never, except for extremely brief and intermittent times, before entering politics ... made an honest living."

Ding-ding! Yes, correct on both counts! Check out this article, grokked from chronovore, which compares the two.

Chris

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supergee
Feb. 9th, 2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
The new one has less charisma, thank the gods.
silverfae
Feb. 9th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)
The article is very good. I just wish it wasn't on rense.com. I have a hard time taking much of his stuff seriously, mainly due to the way it's presented alongside way too many UFO conspiracy articles.
*sigh*
keikaimalu
Feb. 9th, 2005 05:26 pm (UTC)
Fascinating and creepy. I think I'll go slit my wrists now. (Or maybe just move to Canada.)
jamer_31
Feb. 9th, 2005 06:41 pm (UTC)
that quote is about clinton isnt it. :)

oh yeah and what a load of shite.
mckitterick
Feb. 9th, 2005 06:57 pm (UTC)
Heh, didja read the essay? Note that Clinton - while conservatives of various stripes don't like him for a lot of reasons - did hold a job for most of his life and did not intend to establish the kind of centrist government that Hitler and Bush II have done.

Hitler and Bush II both invade defenseless countries for reasons of empire - but only insomuch as that growing empire feeds their cronies (for Bush II, that's the oil companies, Halliburton, and various other super-rich: remember his saying at that dinner that "his people" were the rich?), while Clinton mostly just remote-bombed little countries in retaliation for various things.

Hitler and Bush II wrap themselves in nationalism (hence the "national socialism" of Hitler) and false patriotism, and they both manipulate the media with great skill - knowing that they're spewing lies (such as Iraq being a threat to the US or that it had ties to terrorism).

I could go on and on; take a look at the article and you'll see the solid arguments. If your response ("shite") is based on a rebuttal to those arguments, what do you think? I'm curious as to how people who think Bush isn't stupid and evil actually come to that point of view.

Chris
chronovore
Feb. 10th, 2005 06:46 am (UTC)
The Shrub said, "I call you my base" to the financially elite attendees of that dinner.

Clinton screwed up a couple of times, but he was more interested in a diplomatic foreign policy, instead of one of intimidation. It is arguable that with the military budget of the US, it can afford to be less sensitive in the application of its tools, but it's a bully's argument, and one that doesn't hold up to game theory.

Hitler staged an attack to generate sympathy for an invasion of a sovereign nation. Bush used the hurt condition of Americans grieving over the terrorism of 9/11 to generate support for a knowingly misaligned attack against an unrelated sovereign nation. Rove and crew are operating with a very similar playbook.
mckitterick
Feb. 10th, 2005 02:26 pm (UTC)
In fact, it's clear that Rove is a student of Goebbels, either knowingly or just through his mentoring. This is interesting:
http://www.counterpunch.org/madsen1101.html

I have heard paranoiac stories that the Bushies - calculating and insincere - actually staged the whole 9/11 attacks. But I can't buy that. He's just not smart enough. But Rove? Perhaps, perhaps; it certainly would align with his philosophical mentor's (Goebbels) methods.

Gak. What a pack of scary folks running our country.

Chris
jamer_31
Feb. 10th, 2005 06:43 pm (UTC)
I did read it and yes that is my response. As it was when i read the same crap about Clinton. I will respond in length when i can as we are busy at work and my comp at home won’t behave for me. Just give me a little time. But come on folks we live in America the balance of Gov. is still in effect. And just because you disagree with a way of trying make our country better doesn’t mean that they or you are (you as in a collective not a singular) are evil or bad just different and that is what has made our country what it is. Instead of germany, russia, china, north korea, and on and on.
Ps sorry if this is disjointed but i have been working on just this off and on since 8:30 this morning. :) phew
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