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eBay flexes its censorship muscles

Wow. I've been trying to post a reply to the eBay discussion forum about Larry Rosselli of LRCards.com, who ripped me off in the range of $455. I added my response to a thread on the eBay discussion forums (which, you'll notice, no longer exists), where someone had posted about him doing the same to them.

Within minutes, my response was deleted and I got a message from the eBay Moderation Team about how I was making the community less happy or something. So I removed the words "illegal activity" and "fraud" from my response and re-posted. Within seconds, I got a message that the eMB Team deleted it for a similar reason. Finally, I posted this:
I was also taken by Larry Rosselli of lrcards.com. He had an auction on eBay for a case of cards ($455.00), I paid through PayPal using my credit card (thank goodness), and he replied a couple of weeks later that the cards didn't ship.

I asked for clarification, got none until writing a few more times, when he sent a form reply email about his business going out of business.

This means he listed a case of cards for sale that he did not possess.

To eBay Moderation Team: STOP DELETING THIS FACTUAL POST! I'M SAYING NOTHING HERE THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

Expecting another speedy deletion, I instead discovered that the entire thread has been deleted.

I'm not a big conspiracy buff, so I assume Larry Rosselli of LRCards.com is not on the eBM Team. This means that eBay is so desperate to ensure that no one knows actual fraud and theft occurs on their site that they would rather silence their customers from informing one another than actually fix the problem.

Please spread the word far and wide about how eBay is hiding the truth about fraud on their site. I wonder how much this happens if they so speedily hide the truth.

EDIT: I just posted a new thread; let's see how long it remains!

EDIT 2: I just posted another new thread; let's see how long it remains! It was deleted because I included ".com" in "lrcards.com," so I've fixed that....

EDIT 3: I just posted yet another new thread; let's see how long it remains! They gave no real reason this time for deletion, only repeating the website language. Tell me if you see a website in this message:
Larry Rosselli (eBay user account lrcards) has gone out of business.

My experience (transaction verifiable on eBay):

He had an auction on eBay for a case of cards ($455.00), I paid through PayPal using my credit card (thank goodness), and he replied a couple of weeks later that the cards didn't ship.

I asked for clarification, got none until writing a few more times, when he sent a form reply email about his business going out of business.

This means he listed a case of cards for sale that he did not possess.

How many others are out big cash?

Chris

Comments

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tantra_cat
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:03 am (UTC)
That is terrible! I mean the fact you got robbed, and then the censorship! What's up with Ebay???

I truly hope you recover your losses...
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, all around. Thanks for the well-wishes; I hope so, too....
frugurl27
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:06 am (UTC)
That is some seriously weak sauce. It's always disheartening to hear about stuff like this, especially given my love for eBay.

Hope you get all this resolved!
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
Yeah, one of my favorite hobbies is eBaying, even if I don't buy, so this is good ol' American disillusionment all over again.
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auroraceleste
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:15 am (UTC)
Error
The specified topic [520090887] was not found.



Apparently not long at all.
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed. I re-posted, removing possible language that might get it pulled again....
tully01
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:22 am (UTC)
You're apparently not alone--his eBay account's been NARU'd (suspended). His web site says he's out of business and working on refunds and orders right now. Done crasht & burned, it looks like.

Yep yep, using Paypal may be a pain but there is a good side.

tully01
Feb. 17th, 2009 04:26 am (UTC)
And from the web site:

"Any outstanding orders please contact your credit card provider."

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arian1
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:24 am (UTC)
Paypal usually is good about refunding these things. Did they do anything about it?
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:25 am (UTC)
Not yet, but we'll see!
madmatmax
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:24 am (UTC)
Ebayed
Ha it looks like they have already deleted your new thread... I think a lot of eBay's practices have gone way out of control in recent years. I always worry about selling things on there now because of not being able to leave bad feedback. The fees are also kind of ridiculous and being basically obligated to use pay pal is also obnoxious.
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:26 am (UTC)
Re: Ebayed
Yep, yep, and yep. But they're the only game in town....

Hey, want to weld up that broken shifter-peg so I can resume motorcycle lessons without installing a new piece (that might get broken)?
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minnehaha
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:22 pm (UTC)
Why do you believe he didn't have the cards?

K
mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 05:26 pm (UTC)
If he had them, he would have shipped them! I'd already paid for them weeks before.
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siro_gravity
Feb. 17th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
absolutely incredible. i cannot believe it. it is harder for me to believe that ebay pulled all your posts than it is to believe that some desperate asshole stole your money.

so did the person you bought from have good enough credentials? i would never give that kind of money to anyone with less than a 98% it's a lot of money, chris. thank god it went through your credit card.

mckitterick
Feb. 17th, 2009 06:23 pm (UTC)
Even better: They have now blocked me from making any community posts for a month or something. !

He had a really great rating. I even bought from him before. Then, I suspect, he was affected by the economic downturn and decided to just take in as much as he could before declaring bankruptcy.
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roseconnelly
Feb. 18th, 2009 03:56 am (UTC)
It sounds as if he owes a bunch of people: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/19674-victim-economy.html

No idea about the eBay censorship. I've used it maybe 4 times ever. It is a little disconcerting.
mckitterick
Feb. 18th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
It's interesting to see this, as it's my first direct experience with the economic collapse. I know people who experienced things (like layoffs), but this is my first personal whack.

Filed a complaint with PayPal, and yesterday filed with my credit card. Hope to get my refund soon. *sigh*
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